104 thoughts on “Big Picture: "Maddening" (updated w/embed)

  1. Michael Schnier says:
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    @Dave

    Nonsense. Of course there is objectively something happening in other people's minds. So long as other people exist and have minds, something is going on inside them. That's a state of what is: it's objective.

    My guess of exactly what's going on in someone else's mind may be subjective – but the fact that it *has* a mind and experience is objective fact.

    Eat it.

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  2. Nick says:
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    @Michael

    You are missing Dave's point.

    Human experiences and motives are, by their nature, subjective. Yes, it is an “objective” fact that the clusters of neurons inside a person's head are arranged in this or that jumbled-up pattern at any given moment (although thanks to quantum probability waves, even THAT is open to interpretation), but what that MEANS is subjective. It can be (and has been) interpreted a million different ways.

    As Dave said, history is full of people doing horrible things who claimed that their victims “would thank me later.”

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  3. Michael Schnier says:
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    @Nick

    No. You're missing my point.

    What a person is thinking is what a person is thinking. If I am not me, but Dave instead, whatever Nick happened to be thinking at 7:38PM last Wednesday doesn't change. Subjective experience happens in an objective space: reality.

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