Escape to the Movies: "The Amazing Spider-Man"

Special tuesday episode, just for this week’s big Spider-Fail.

ALSO: Big Picture is on at it’s regularly-scheduled time for “Batman Revisited: Part II.”

82 thoughts on “Escape to the Movies: "The Amazing Spider-Man"

  1. Taylor says:
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    Okay, I wanted to get in before people start flooding this with “That must not be true since Bob is clearly biased.”

    1. Assuming that he must have just hated it because he was 'biased' against it is itself a bias against his opinion.

    2. Even if Bob were demonstrably biased against the Amazing Spider-Man, that doesn't make his opinion wrong. If you want to say that this is a great movie, point out why you think it is.

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  2. Omorka says:
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    So – you used Casper for “soulless” the first time, and then Slimer the second time?

    I – I get why you did that, but honestly, that juxtaposition of those two characters makes my brain go all 'splody.

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  3. Sam Robards, Comic Fan says:
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    Well, this isn't terribly surprising. I'll still see it to judge for myself, but I'm definitely apprehensive about it.

    That being said, the Raimi movies, while they were pretty good overall (even with 3 being 50% utter garbage), had some massive failings of their own.

    Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst casting aside, I never liked Peter's lifelong infatuation with Mary Jane. Come on, this is the guy that actively avoided meeting MJ for the longest time because his aunt was the one trying to hook them up, and how great was the last blind date your family set up for you?

    I also didn't like the “my spider-powers are shorting out on me for no reason” plot thread from the second one. It was just dumb.

    I also didn't like the fact that he unmasked, showing hundreds of people his face, at nearly every available opportunity. To be fair, based on the footage in the review, that trend looks to be continuing.

    Venom was also a complete load of garbage. Everything from the horrific casting to the complete garbage scriptwork involving Venom was atrocious.

    And, to respond to your question regarding how they mess up Uncle Ben's demise scenario: ask Sam Raimi. After all, he had the F*&^ING Sandman kill Ben because he got bumped by the guy Peter let go. Really?! Talk about destroying the reason Peter becomes Spider-Man in the first place.

    It's my opinion that the definitive Spider-Man movie simply hasn't been made yet, and I honestly think it never will.

    Unless Sony finally gives the rights back to Marvel, of course. They'd knock it out of the park.

    *Side note: since you briefly mentioned First Class, I figure I can, too. It was a decent movie (with some disturbing undertones), but nowhere near as good as X2. Just sayin'.*

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  4. Kevin B. Nix says:
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    I had a lot of fun with Spidey, and I thought it could have been so much worse. The only thing that stands out in my mind as particularly bad is Parker as an individual character: his arc is not as interesting or fleshed out script-wise as everything else. Other than that I had so much fun with this movie.

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  5. Lord Slithor says:
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    Well, I guess I shouldn't have been so surprised you wouldn't like it. I at least was expecting you to not like it. But to rip into it with the venom and vitriol you did surprised even me. You were pretty much actively hating this movie since it was announced it was being made, and I knew and understood full well the reasons why.

    I had at least hoped though you would have said something like, “Okay, it's not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, but I still didn't like it.” But I haven't seen you have a hate-on for a movie since your review of The Expendables. And I'm guessing this will probably be just as controversial.

    I also think this is going to be a case once again of us wildly disagreeing on a movie. Films you loved like Splice and Tree of Life I hated (Seriously, dude, you really oversold the dinosaurs in that one. I was expeting something on the scale of Fantasia's “Rite of Spring” segment, and instead I got one, maybe two scenes of dinosaurs with the rest of the movie being Brad Pitt being a dick to his family and shots that lingered too long). Meanwhile stuff like Bay's first Transformers, Abrams' Star Trek, John Carter and Prometheus I loved. So while you may hate this movie with every fiber of your being, everything I've seen of this movie says to me I'm going to like it a LOT more than Raimi's movies. I'm sorry, but I just didn't like them. I had lots of problems with them, and they just felt wrong to me. So compared to those, I think this movie actually “gets it.” So if you'd like to lump me in with all those “douchebags” who shouldn't drive or vote just because I might end up liking this movie, go right ahead.

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  6. Browncoat Eric says:
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    Haven't watched Bob's vid yet but I saw the movie last night And I'm here to tell you everything Bob has said leading up to this is wrong. It is embarrassingly better then Rami's films and makes those movies look like the 90's Cap movie. This is the closest to the comics we have ever gotten for spidey.

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  7. Aiddon says:
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    I read the synopsis and I was foaming at the mouth about them changing Uncle Ben's death. The entire thing just reeked of meddling and cynicism. After Dark Knight Rises I think I'm done with superhero movies for awhile.

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  8. Anonymous says:
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    Saw it last night.

    Look, it wasn't perfect nor was it to Spider-Man as Batman Begins was to Batman. I had issues with but I alsomfoundit pretty fun. To put it simply, I felt the Raimi film handled the origin better and the second half of Amazing Spider-Man was solid. Better than 1? Debatable. Better than 2? Personally, no. Better than 3? Fuck yes!

    I just don't see what Bob hates about this even when he explains it. The film has some general problems that keep it from being outstanding, but it is far from the terrible piece of trash Bob makes it out to be.

    Oh well…at least now we so called Nolanites can defend The Dark Knight Rises without Bob going nuts saying we're bias and already made indoor mind about the film….right?

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  9. Dave from canada says:
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    @ Taylor

    Except no.

    Bob has zero credibility towards this movie because he was making shit up about it to get people to hate it before it was even filmed.

    This isn't like it comes out of nowhere. He's been whining about this for years. When he thought it was about carnage it was bad. When he thought it was a more comic accurate version it was bad. He even argued that a snarky superhero wouldn't work (because everyone just HATED iron man). He tried to use homophobia to get people to dislike the movie. he's demonstrated that there is NOTHING he would not do to make peopel hate the movie. He all but admitted this. If this movie is a success, no spidey in avengers 2.

    And now the film is getting a positive reaction and is apparently on track to be quite successful despite raimi killing the franchise….so now all he can do is throw a tantrum.

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  10. cdstephens says:
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    I'm a little less trusting of this review compared to other reviews because the amount of personal contempt makes it seem like more of a rant or a tantrum than a fair review. The fact that Bob has been against this movie ever since it was initially conceived because he wants Spiderman in the Avengers badly doesn't help things either. I'll probably see it and judge it for myself.

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  11. MichaelAngelo says:
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    “I just don't see what Bob hates about this even when he explains it. The film has some general problems that keep it from being outstanding, but it is far from the terrible piece of trash Bob makes it out to be.”

    THIS.

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  12. ram says:
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    skipping this one, not because bob said its crap- because honestly I have no need for a new spiderman movie. Spiderman 3 tied things up nicely. If I want to watch a spiderman film I'll just pop in the dvd, somethings don't need a reboot (esp in such a short time). Hopefully Batman takes a brake after Nolans done.

    People so upset with Bob's hate for the movie, I don't get it. No ones forcing you to read his blog and take his OPINION as the be all end all.

    Another thing, I still don't get everyone's love for First Class, saw it again and still can't get over how meh it was. The whole film comes across as if it was a really bad fan made film, from the wardrobe to some of cringe worthy dialogue everything with the exception of Fassbender was terrible.

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  13. Popcorn Dave says:
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    Pity, Bob. Even if this is a 100% honest statement of your views, no-one with half a brain will take this review seriously knowing how much baggage you brought into the cinema.

    I'd say “well, at least Bob is done talking about Spider-Man now”, but of course, for the next few months you're going to keep bringing this film up in every video and blog post you can get away with, just like you did with The Expendables and The Avengers.

    Let's just not go through all this again with Man of Steel, okay? Please? I notice you haven't mentioned it for a while… is that because you're trying to be a bit more measured this time around? Kudos if so.

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  14. Fallen Angel says:
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    …*Sigh*

    I can already predict the amount of hatred, bias accusations, and internet-wide outrage you're gonna receive in the coming weeks, Bob, so let me just say that why I shall not add my voice and opinion to the discussion until I have actually SEEN the film (yes, Sony's gonna get my money, sorry – unless I can somehow sneak into the movie theatre through the back exit or something. But that's just WRONG, so, yeah…) I DO respect your opinion and will continue to follow your work for more of the entertainment and thought-provoking brain-food it has provided me with so far (as opposed to screaming from the metaphorical Internet rooftops that you are a hypocritical biased whatever just because you didn't like something everyone else did).

    Though, if I WERE to make an observation, I must say you haven't torn a movie apart with such gusto since…I dunno, Green Lantern? Transformers 2?

    Oh, one last thing…any more thoughts on my “diminished expectations” hypothesis a few posts earlier? Jus' curious 😉

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  15. MerelyAFan says:
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    As someone who has stated many comments addressing Bob's points about this film (perhaps too many), let me simply state my issue with him here.

    I have nothing against (nor can say anything negative about) Bob not liking this film, him expressing his opinion on the various promotional materials (pictures, trailers, etc), or stating that his skepticism/pessimism about this film was a sign of bias. I have no quarrel with him in those aspects.

    However, his self righteous comments bristling as the mere accusation of bias, and his rather ill-executed claim that its his role as journalist and commentator to express his opinion and (evidently) its unfair to to keep such comments in mind for his eventual review rub me the wrong way.

    In this matter that Bob strikes me was someone wanting it both ways, wishing to be considered with the credibility of a genuine film reviewer while still engaging in the snarky internet/comic book talk that so dominates the internet. No problem with that, and he certainly shouldn't limited in trying to do his career the way he wants.

    (Putting aside of course that ASM was brought up numerous times in various blog articles and twitter comments unrelated to it, which would strike some as perhaps blending the line between expected contemporary commentary and an outright excuse for a diss)

    That being said, getting so irritated that actions in one affect the other seems rather naive at best and almost childish at worst. Simply put a mere shrug and acknowledgement that some will believe he's biased, certainly would have sufficed in this issue, but his insistence beyond that on the likes of Twitter I don't believe does him any favors.

    Nor does the particular double standard that seems so liberally applied by Bob in this particular area (I'm not biased, however you are for wanting a snarky Spider-Man and/or something grim gritty). How much credibility either statement has is a matter of interpretation, but of all the things he appears as when saying both roughly at the same time, open minded is not high on the list.

    Again I have no quarrel with Bob's opinion on this film, just that his tone regarding the response to him betrays a certain sense of obstinacy that doesn't suit him.

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  16. Anonymous says:
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    Holy fuck is Bob overreacting!

    I had issues with the film (underdeveloped characters, generic villain plot, the rehashed origin wasn't done as well as the original film) but overall there were some improvements, the performances were great, the action wasn't awe inspiring but solid. It's not different enough to be a superhero masterpiece like Dark Knight or even Spider-Man 2, but it is far from a piece of garbage. Yes, it was made for studio reasons but the final result is ultimately a solid film that I'd love to see a sequel to now that they have the grounds for a new story sans the rehashed origin to go on.

    I've never seen such vile hate towards a film that is at worst, just average.

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  17. Sanunes says:
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    For some reason I am taking the extreme dislike for The Amazing Spider-Man to be directed more of the reasoning behind making the film to be the factor that drives the review to be more negative then it might deserve. At least that is the impression I got from the beginning of the review.

    With that said, I don't plan on seeing The Amazing Spider-Man because I am suffering from comic based movie burnout and its probably going to detract me from seeing Dark Knight Rises as well.

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  18. Razmere says:
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    As bad as the movie might be, I know for a fact that it isn't going to fill me with as much rage as “ONE MORE DAY.”

    NOTHING can be as bad as that.

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  19. AmazinglyDisappointed says:
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    So:

    – Either Bob doesn't know the Spider-Man comics like he claims he does or he is straight up lying. Anyone who has read a decent amount of the comics will tell you that this movie's depiction of Spider-Man is far closer to the comics than the Raimi movies.

    – The fact Bob actually accused this movie in his review of ripping off Nolan's Batman films really makes his knowledge of Spider-Man quite suspect. Seriously, that's bottom of the barrel ignorant internet mud slinging. There is NOTHING that this movie has that ripped off of Nolan's Batman movies. NOTHING. Raimi's cheese was not how the comics were. That's just how Raimi makes movies.

    – Bob has a problem with this movie's coincidences but not a problem with the Marvel Studio movie's coincidences that stretch across multiple films?

    You know, how the Abomination JUST SO HAPPENS to be given the same serum that JUST SO HAPPENS to be the same one given to Captain American that JUST SO HAPPENS to come in contact with the Cosmic Cube that JUST SO HAPPENS to be what Loki wants who JUST SO HAPPENS to be the adopted brother of Thor who JUST SO HAPPENS to join the same team that Captain America leads.

    The hypocrisy continues.

    I'm just going to leave the web addresses to the previous posts I made regarding Movie Bob's childishness and hypocrisy right here. I go into lots of detail. Be sure to copy and paste them into your browser to be taken directly to them.

    1:

    http://moviebob.blogspot.com/2012/06/uk-spider-man-reviews-are-in.html?showComment=1340201059460#c9097273812337156990

    2:

    http://moviebob.blogspot.com/2012/06/marvels-next-new-franchise-might-be.html?showComment=1340926753092#c5741200264335829523

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  20. Rannoch says:
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    Dude, totally loved your show, but wtf? What happened while you saw that film? Did someone die?!
    I doubt that we both saw the same movie. It's like you brought that critic from a dark lonesome most fucked up parallel timeline from hell to show us what could have been in the worst case scenario ever

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  21. Greg says:
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    I just hope the irony that his review being filled with such hate that it will likely get more people go see this movie to see if it warrents such an extreme response isn't lost on him.

    I apologise as I quite enjoy the GameOver-Thinker, Escape to the Movies and the Big Piture; but in this case I do have to admitt it feels like Bob made up his mind months ago about this movie. I'm not saying he did; but it's hard to remember all his posts about the movie and then watch the review and think otherwise.

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  22. Taylor says:
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    For crap's sake, Bob didn't like a movie. IT'S HIS JOB! HE'S A FILM CRITIC! HE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT MOVIES!

    Whether or not it's correct, it is just messed up how you guys are going nuts about the “hypocrisy” and evil 'bias' in this review.

    You know what it really implies? That you're insecure. That you are so fragile in your opinion that the idea of someone having an alternate opinion is just horrific and the only thing you can do is try to imply that they're vicious hypocrites who must be obfuscating their REAL opinion because they are just afraid to admit how good something is.

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  23. MerelyAFan says:
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    @Taylor

    Quite an interesting comment given that one could infer it's Bob who's been assigning motive to people who defend or life like the film. Even as recently as today he stated that people were defending because they were afraid of any comic book movie failing, because of course that's the only reason someone would defend it, correct? Its not actually possible that someone could like it, right?

    As I stated before, I have no problem with Bob not liking this film, criticizing the promotion for it, or even being angry at its very existence (though I can't help but notices he lacks the same level of vitriol towards X-Men: First Class in that regard despite of the fact it was made for the exact reason ASM was).

    However I can't say I'm particularly fond of him make belittling comments about people being excited about Spider-Man snarking or dismissing those out of hand for differing in their view of the Raimi films from him.

    I ask you now, what more immediately strike you of insecurity: that, or consistently expressing a negative opinion about a film a year and half plus in advance and acting righteously outraged when people have the audacity to bring up questions of objectivity when such a film is released?

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  24. Anonymous says:
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    You're actually complaining about Uncle Ben in this movie?

    Did you forget that they he was killed by Sandman in the Rami films?

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  25. Anonymous says:
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    You complained in your Men in Black 3 review about rehashing the same story over and over.

    Spiderman 1, 2 and 3 all has the same story.
    Good guy is forced to turn bad due to circumstances, kidnaps Mary Jane and hangs her from a high place as a trap for Spiderman.
    That's the story for all three movies!!

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  26. Capt Derp says:
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    Re: Lord Slithor
    “But I haven't seen you have a hate-on for a movie since your review of The Expendables.”

    Then you weren't paying attention when he did Green Lantern.

    Re: Blue Highwind
    “Well, judging by Moviebob's terrible nitpicky criticism of Batman Returns…”

    As a child, I distinctly remember being MORE lost during that film than any other movie I'd been to. Ten years later, just to be quirky, I popped it in my old VCR…and was still as lost. There are objective plot flow errors amiss with that film, visual/artistic cornucopia aside.

    That aside, I can at least understand something of the hurt and betrayal one could feel seeing one of their favorite icons of comic book heroes/heroines being altered into a by-the-numbers smash up slop to line the trough for a certain demographic that, to the older crowd, looks positively repulsive.

    I can understand the feeling and the theory. But I don't subscribe to it, this time round. Not until I see with my own eyes. And should I pass on moments after in like fashion to that fated Sith Lord, someone on this internet somewhere will know what to carve on my tombstone (Just keep the damn bears out of it).

    Your words are duly noted, Mr. Chipman. But I'm still going to see it. If for nothing else, because a lack of anything ELSE to do on an Independence Day afternoon. And because I'm curious.

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  27. Brady says:
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    You went into this wanting to hate it, how can we trust your opinion when you had already decided that opinion when the movie was first announced? The word on the movie is that its pretty good, so I will definitely be checking it out.

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  28. Nicholas says:
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    Bob,

    I could only sit through 3 minutes of your review. I don't know or care how good or bad the movie is. In this case it is irrelevant. The disdain and outrage in your voice so clearly had nothing to do with the movie and everything to do with your hatred of the project from a studio stand point. We get it, you hate what they did to Raime, you hate that it was rushed out because for financial reasons rather than creative ones, you ESPECIALLY hate that Sony has kept spiderman from your beloved avengers. None of those things, however, have anything to do with the finished product. Everything you said was only marginally backed by evidence and was hyperbolic to an extreme. You state its not as bad as green lantern and yet your reaction to green lantern was calm compared to this.

    Bob, you should not have reviewed this movie. Plain and simple. No film critic can remain objective, however, for that matter neither cab a judge or lawyer, or official. However, when a case gets so unbelievably personal that there is no conceivable way that they will be able to see the truth of the case they recuse themselves. No matter how big or important the matter.

    You have this same situation with Spiderman, and I would argue to a lesser extent with batman. You have such a huge fanboy complex when it comes to these types of movies that you are incapable of judging any of them with any type of clarity or intelligence.

    You are one of the most intelligent and interesting film critics out there Bob. But you have NEVER had a single intelligent review of a super hero movie. You are so tangled up in your own notions of what they have to be going into them that when they do come up your reviews are shallow, hyperbolic, and all together useless for anyone reading them, good or bad. Spider man might be bad or it might be great, I don't know yet. Your review of it however was painful to watch and as a fan I have to say, that you really need to look at the reviews you do of the genre you care about the most, because most of them suck, not because you are a bad critic, but because you let your fanboyism cloud your judgement with them far too much.

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  29. Browncoat Eric says:
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    This was simply embarrassing. The single most biased pathetic “I refuse to admit I'm wrong” ranting masking itself as film criticism. Whats even worse is your lie about being a Spider-man fan. Ask anyone who has ACTUALLY read the comics and isn't saying he does to defend Rami's films which bore no actual resemblance to the comics. I have lost all respect for you and you're opinion.

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  30. Silens Cursor says:
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    Just got back from seeing the movie – it was okay. Wasn't bad, but it certainly wasn't great and definitely wasn't 'better than The Avengers like I've heard some people saying.

    Most of Bob's criticisms are pretty valid, but at the same time, I suspect some of the vitriol towards taking the project away from Raimi is taking center stage here. And you know what, I get that vitriol, because not only did Raimi want to use the Lizard for one of his movies, but I think he could have done a halfway decent job with it.

    That being said, while this movie is cribbing from the cheatsheet that is the 2002 Spider-Man movie, it's also got much stronger leads in Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone than Tobey McGuire and Kirsten Dunst. And yeah, I liked Peter's snark and the mechanical webshooters, and I think the instrumental score of the movie was excellent, adding some real gravitas to scenes that needed them.

    You know what? Fuck it, Bob and everyone have their opinions, I posted mine here: http://spectrum-pulse.blogspot.ca/2012/07/movie-review-amazing-spider-man.html. As it is, I hope it makes enough money for a sequel because I'd like to see the death of Gwen Stacy done well on screen. It's iconic, and I bet Andrew Garfield could sell it well.

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  31. munchie64 says:
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    Ok so Bob didn't like the movie… neither did 29% of Rotten Tomatoes critics. Go bitch at them too.

    Seriously even if his hatred is biased, he does a pretty good job explaining his problems here.

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  32. Greg says:
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    @munchie64
    To be fair I don't see many people here who disagree with him who are being insulting or mean (unfortently a few are… but that always happens).

    Bob gave his opinions and people here are simply giving theirs as to why they disagree. Many of the comments here are doing a terrific job explaining their problems as well.

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  33. Browncoat Eric says:
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    @munchie64 If you saw the movie you'd know he didn't. And if you read the comics you'd know he didn't. He didn't explain a damn thing about why he doesn't like it. He just said “I never gave the movie a chance. I said I wasn't going to like it and I don't. I don't care if it is in every way better then the Rami movies. I don't care if it's much much much closer to the comics. I refuse to concede. I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. HUMPH!”

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  34. Popcorn Dave says:
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    Christ, just look at him howling away on Twitter. What a baby.

    I especially like his suggestion that only “tenured professors of journalism and filmmaking” are qualified to tell him he's doing a shitty job. Bit old to be using that line, aren't we Bob?

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  35. Chris Cesarano says:
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    Let's play a game.

    Peter Parker JUST SO HAPPENS to be touring at Oscorp where it JUST SO HAPPENS an experimental spider JUST SO HAPPENS to bite him and grant him super powers. Oh yeah, and Peter Parker JUST SO HAPPENS to be friends with Norman Osborn's son who JUST SO HAPPENS to be the Green Goblin.

    Otto Octavius JUST SO HAPPENS to be working on a project that JUST SO HAPPENS to be in the interest of Oscorp that JUST SO HAPPENS to go wrong.

    Sandman JUST SO HAPPENS to fall into an experimental Oscorp science device that JUST SO HAPPENS to grant him super powers.

    Gee, that's amazing how it doesn't matter that everything ties to Oscorp in Raimi's films, or that Sandman JUST SO HAPPENS to be the guy that REALLY killed Uncle Ben.

    I want to give MovieBob's criticisms a fair chance, just as I gave this movie that I was expecting to be disappointed in. The problem is I cannot imagine MovieBob gave it a legitimate fair chance.

    I will confess that the Uncle Ben's death moment really didn't do much for me. Then again, I knew it was coming. I knew it was going to happen and I was waiting to see how they'd handle it. Did it work as well? No, not at all, but I also feel MovieBob is missing a lot of stuff the writers were trying to work with.

    Yes, a bunch of business suits demanded this movie be made, but the end product must have had some passionate people working hard to make this a good movie. Peter Parker actually has a slower arc of growth compared to the first film. Because he didn't act, Uncle Ben dies. He becomes a vigilante just so he can get revenge, but he quickly learns that he needs to do like his Uncle Ben said and like Captain Stacy pointed out. He needs to actually help people and become more altruistic. Just as he had a hand in the demise of his Uncle Ben, he had a hand in the creation of The Lizard, only now he has the chance to make things right.

    Raimi's origin gave more weight to Uncle Ben's death, certainly, but the actual movie-long growth of Peter Parker was a much more interesting attempt. In fact, this Peter Parker was better than the “Duuurrrr I dunno how to talks to the hot red heads!” Peter Parker in Sam Raimi's ultimate scream queen infested cheese fest.

    I will concede that the Curt Connors arc is probably what will get me upon repeat viewings of the film. I agree it would have been better were he more of a misunderstood anti-hero, and I could also see what the third act conflict would be from a mile away once they revealed THE OBJECT CENTRAL TO THE LIZARD'S ULTIMATE GOAL. It was disappointing, and one scene in particular felt too much of a repeat of Willam Defoe's insane Gollum monologue moment.

    While I want to take some of these critiques seriously, muzzle flare on the web shooters as a complaint…you're just digging for reasons to hate.

    I will also concur that the “Hey let's have people from New York team up to help out Spiderman” was cheesy, but moments like that I force myself to take a step back and think “What would my mom or sister, who are notorious for liking bad movies and are pretty representative as the larger mainstream populace, think about this?” It's just like the end of Batman Begins where that guy keeps on reminding the audience over and over again just why it is so important that Batman stop that train even though it was completely explained five minutes ago.

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  36. Chris Cesarano says:
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    Was it a perfect film? No, and on repeat viewings I'll probably notice so many problems, just as I started to see Raimi's films for the cheese fests they really were with an uninteresting protagonist.

    This movie tried to do a lot. It brought Peter back to high school, y'know, BECAUSE HE STARTED OUT AS A TEENAGER IN THE COMICS, and had him deal with being a teenager. You know what? His love story with Gwen Stacy in this single movie was a lot more interesting than his love story with Mary Jane in all three of Raimi's films. Flash Thompson was an actual character. You actually got an idea of who Peter Parker is, which is a not-very popular kid but also not an outcast. He's got some social ineptitudes but he doesn't make ME want to beat him up for his lunch money. In other words, HE'S PETER MOTHERFUCKING PARKER.

    There are plenty of things to like about this movie and plenty it did better than Sam Raimi. While I give you the benefit of the doubt for MOST things Bob, I am not at all surprised that you found every reason you could to hate it. How could you not? On a film that's already trying to do so much, you go ahead and bitch that it doesn't shamelessly toss J. Jonah Jameson in there? For what? How would that have improved this movie in any way, shape or form?

    Oh, that's right, it wouldn't.

    I don't know why your review pissed me off so much MovieBob. Maybe it's the audacity you have to claim a lack of bias, or that you dismiss anyone that claims you have it. I just find it strange that I was walking in expecting to waste my money, and instead walked out thinking it was pretty good.

    The biggest thing The Amazing Spider-Man had going against it wasn't that it was demanded by a bunch of corporate suits that had the greediest of intentions. It is that Raimi's films exist at all and thus comparison and expectation are unavoidable. If this is what we had gotten back in the day, I imagine you'd have at least had a few more positive opinions on it.

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  37. Anonymous says:
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    I dunno why you guys are wasting time replying to Bob. Are you guys seasoned journalists or film makers?

    Because if not, why would anyone bother replying to him, because your input clearly doesn't have any weight to Moviebob.

    Also, Kevin Bacon wasn't the star in Footloose (the original one).

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  38. Aiddon says:
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    At this point I'm finding it hilarious how people are acting like Bob insulted their mother. This is some of most fun I've had with reactions since he reviewed the Expendables

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  39. Greg says:
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    This is largely unrelated; but I just now found out about the whole Ryan Perez/ Felicia Day thing. In retrospective it seems silly to be up in arms about whether Bob gave this movie a real chance or not.

    When we still have things like that happen in the entertainment industry and still have way too many split over what happened; it seems kinda trivial to worry about whether or not a reviewer shows bias.

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